John Calvin on Predestination and our Lack of Free Will Pt. 2 Video
by Calvin McMurray through professor Rev. Dr. James Kenneth Powell II, opensourcebuddhism.org This well-made work examines the arguments John Calvin, Protestant superhero makes regarding free will or predestination, his form of "fatalism". How can an omniscient deity not know everything you will do? Can He make a wall higher than He can climb?
@augustmaquet? I ...
@augustmaquet? I teach religious studies and have never ever come across a religion that acknowledges a man in the clouds! An airline worker?
@NB3K
You're ...
@NB3K
You're still trying to wrongly impose the Romans 5 passage, if Adam represents us all and we're all born sinners due to Him---then all are automatically made righteous because of Christ's death. Are you a universalist? I am not.
"innocent..babies die..." Wrong version of death-- Romans 5 is not talking about physical death, that is all spiritual death. When we sin against the commandment(as Romans 7 says)--THEN we die, knowing it is sin. We die physically? b/c not in Garden.
@live4pce Actually ...
@live4pce Actually Paulianity(Chrostianity and pigslam) is very POPular but, is not a religion. Most christians are sentimental Darwinists and they only pray when they go to beddie by. Real Christians are people like? Adolph(f****t) Hitler, Napoleon, Stalin, Obama and other Luciferean maggots. The most xtians are capable of to warrant being considered religous(religulous) is they give ackowledgement to a man in the clouds. Real religion(s) come from India, not Vatican City or Egypt.
@NB3K
I'm not ...
@NB3K
I'm not even for Anya---but "all offspring are condemned"--is wrong, there is NOTHING about that in Genesis as one of the punishments. And if you're reading that into the Romans 5 passage---then again, you're also incorrect because if you're consistent with the passage, if all are automatically condemned "in Adam" then ALL must also automatically be saved "in? Christ"--so now you're a universalist. Read Ezekiel 18, we die for only our OWN sins, see Rom 7:9 Paul was "alive" before law
@8Anya8 Isa 46:8 " ...
@8Anya8 Isa 46:8 "Remember this and stand firm, recall it to mind, you transgressors,
Isa 46:9 remember the former things of old; for I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is? none like me,
Isa 46:10 declaring the end from the beginning and from ancient times things not yet done, saying, 'My counsel shall stand, and I will accomplish all my purpose,'
@8Anya8 That's ...
@8Anya8 That's correct since Adam failed to keep God's command in the? garden of eden, all of his offspring are condemned. Since all are condemned and are unclean as dead people, it is up to the mercy and grace of God to choose whom will be in heaven. And by God's justice who will be in Hell! You are under a curse. ONLY GOD CAN SET YOU FREE FROM THAT CURSE!
@8Anya8 Rom 11:7 ...
@8Anya8 Rom 11:7 What then? Israel failed to obtain what it was seeking. The elect obtained it, but the? rest were hardened,
Rom 11:8 as it is written, "God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that would not see and ears that would not hear, down to this very day."
Rom 11:9 And David says, "Let their table become a snare and a trap, a stumbling block and a retribution for them;
Rom 11:10 let their eyes be darkened so that they cannot see, and bend their backs forever."
religion is crap... ...
religion is crap.....a bunch of man? made crap
@8Anya8 which he ...
@8Anya8 which he lavished upon us, in all wisdom and insight making known to us the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all? things in him, things in heaven and things on earth" (Ephesians 1:3-9).
@8Anya8 In love he ...
@8Anya8 In love he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved. In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his? grace,
@8Anya8 "Blessed ...
@8Anya8 "Blessed be? the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him.
@8Anya8 no, ...
@8Anya8 no, enslaved2God is not using man-made theology, you are. Reformed theology or any other theology is subject to error, but God's Word, the Bible isn't. You are just stubborn about your views, not willing? to hear what God in his Word has to say. Read again Romans 9:15 that he/she posted.
God has predestined people to eternal salvation and eternal damnation. That's my statement which doesn't really matter, but what does the Bible, the only living and true Word say?
Anticipated reply ...
Anticipated reply enslaved.
In the end you? will only have yourself to blame.
My hands are clean.
@8Anya8 I wipe the ...
@8Anya8 I wipe the dust from my? feet. Goodbye.
Your wasting your ...
Your wasting your time enslaved to traditions in trying to convince me that your man-made theology is in anyway correct,because it is not.
You have fallen for the counterfeit christ? according to your channel information and your comments below.
Put away your own understanding and perhaps you can free yourself from the snare of the devil who has taken you captive to do his will.
7) THAT is the ...
7) THAT is the sovereign LORD of the? bible and that is the God that Reformed theology teaches. What you call demonic is biblical doctrine. If you don't like or agree with it, the Word has an answer for you:
"Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God?" ~Ro. 9:20
6) "For he saith to ...
6) "For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth,? but of God that sheweth mercy...Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
" ~Ro. 9:15-16,18
5) First of all, ...
5) First of all, you say that God "FORESAW the end from the beginning", then quote Isaiah 46:10? concerning Him "DECLARING the end from the beginning". Contradiction. God declares, not because of foreknowledge, but because of His will and wisdom. And that applies to the salvation of man, as well.
4) What I find ...
4) What I find interesting is that in a former post, you make another cotradiction.
you: "God of course foresaw the end from the beginning,as it is written."
the Word? of God: "Declaring the end from the beginning,and from ancient times things that are not done saying,My counsel shall stand and I will do all my pleasure."
3) My belief? ...
3) My belief? system is biblical, not from "foolosh men", and I certainly don't "venerate" anyone but the Lord Jesus Christ. How arrogant to think you know my heart. More falsity and assumption on your part.
2) It's ironic that ...
2) It's ironic that you make the point that, despite the failings of Israel, God's will was, nonetheless, done. Yet you don't believe the? teaching of the bible that salvation depends on God and not the wicked heart of man. Again, you claim that He wants all men saved; then you have to admit that His desire is thwarted, because all men do not get saved.
@8Anya8 I never? ...
@8Anya8 I never? said that God's will is dependant upon the actions of individuals. On the contrary, my point is that the LORD is sovereign and that His will is NOT dependant on the actions of the creature. Again, Romans 9 makes this clear.
4) you: "it depends ...
4) you: "it depends upon the cond,of s person's heart"
the Word of God: "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked:? who can know it?" ~Jer. 17:9
That refers to every person on Earth. Salvation has nothing to do with the God-hating heart of man. It has everything to do with the grace of God.
3) "What makes the ...
3) "What makes the call effectual is not because God sets some peeps above others"
Romans 9, as well as the whole of the Word of God, proves you wrong.
"God is not a respector of persons"
You're taking? this verse out of context. That's poor eisegesis.
2) What I've read ...
2) What I've read in books? My book is the Word of God. Another false assumption. Since it is you who denies the biblical doctrines? of grace, I'm not the one who's been brainwashed here.
@8Anya8 I wouldn't ...
@8Anya8 I wouldn't make assumptions about people you don't know in the least; you'll usually just be proven wrong. The assumption is also more about? you than the one you're judging in ignorance.
For instance, I'm not "enslaved to what men teach". You're wrong. I'm enslaved to no one but the Lord Himself (Ro. 6:22).
Also God's will is ...
Also God's will is not dependent upon the actions of individuals,for he called Moses to lead the people into Canaan,but just because they failed,that did not make void the will of God,as it is written.
but truly, as I live, all the earth SHALL (yet) be filled with the glory of YHWH.
Numbers 14:21
His will? was fulfilled with the next generation.
Your belief system is from foolish men that you continue to venerate to your own hurt and ruin.
Reformed theology is demonic theology
enslaved,? you are ...
enslaved,? you are enslaved to what men teach and not what is true.
Lining up ones will with God's is all a part of the process to salvation,i.e. not my will,but yours be done.
God's will goes beyond what you have read in books and been brainwashed by,a subject matter obviously to deep for me to get into with you.
What makes the call effectual is not because God sets some peeps above others,for God is not a respector of persons, rather it depends upon the cond,of s person's heart.
3) You also say ...
3) You also say that the invitation is open to all men and that there is no exclusion. The outward call is open to all, yes. But the effectual call which draws man to? God (John 6:37, 39, 44) is not open to all. Man does not choose God. God chooses His elect (Romans 9 couldn't be clearer on this).
